Characteristics of HP Admins

Here are a couple of logs of discussions I had with a couple of Happy Penguin Admins over the time I was in HP. I am no longer an HP member, so I am coming public with some of these Xfire conversations as I don't have to protect a community that betrayed someone who was once devoted to them. My reason for posting these is to prove the disgraceful behaviour of some of their so-called Admins & the dangers of being a member of HP.

Discussion with Rattman after the entire Adult-Only channel decided to go on a Mormon-bashing spree:

[21:29] HP The Ratt Mann: polygimists?
[21:30] HP The Ratt Mann: whayt no balls to answer?
[21:31] HP WonderGamer: I may not be active in my church, but I will not take kindly to trash talking my Religion. Polygomy is not allowed in Utah or Mormonism. Continue with this type of trash & I will take it straight to Jack. The step after that is not one you will EVER want me to take.
[21:31] HP The Ratt Mann: tno truck against mormons, but polygimists leave them selfs open for the butt off jokes
[21:32] HP The Ratt Mann: do what you gotta do bro
[21:32] HP The Ratt Mann: make sure you tell evil
[21:35] HP The Ratt Mann: you can take your religious BS and fuck off
[21:36] HP The Ratt Mann: I didn't tell you I was gonna turn you into lampshades or soap for cryin out loud ... again fuck off
[21:38] HP The Ratt Mann: go straight to Jack need any help???
[21:38] HP The Ratt Mann: Just as I thought no balls
[21:39] HP The Ratt Mann: are you gonna deny that there is no polygimists in the Morman religion....I didn't think so...
[21:40] HP The Ratt Mann: deal with it
[21:41] HP WonderGamer: I won't deny it, but it is against the law as well as Mormon belief. Anybody practicing Polygomy are not true Mormons. If they call themselves Mormon at all, it would be what a lot of people call Jack-Mormon.
[21:42] HP The Ratt Mann: and your point is???? How did I insult you?
[21:48] HP WonderGamer: You made it sound like every woman practicing Mormonism is a born Polygomist. This is not our belief & I took great offense to it. As I told Pierce, it hit a nerve, a nerve that should've never been disturbed. In case you were wondering, the step after Jack was getting national law involved. That's the nerve that was hit & I don't really want to go there. I haven't said anything to Jack yet & would like to let bygones be bygones, but in voicing my disgust, another confrontation between you & me has "burned up." If you can at least understand what I'm saying & are able to let it sit at that, then I would like to be your friend again, but wtih the current conflicts, that is not possible. Are you getting what I'm saying?
[21:49] HP The Ratt Mann: National Law????
[21:50] HP The Ratt Mann: If you clearly can't understand that I was referring to polygimist sect's you have got a big fuckin problem
[21:50] HP The Ratt Mann: fuck you wonder narc
[21:51] HP The Ratt Mann: next are you going to contact national laww every time someone talks about pot?
[21:52] HP The Ratt Mann: maybe I sould contact national law about comments you have made that I think only a pedophile would make?
[21:52] HP The Ratt Mann: let's see who ends up on a national law list first...ehhh?
[21:53] HP The Ratt Mann: Fuck OFF
[21:58] HP The Ratt Mann: iT'S THE OVER 18 cHANNEL DICK FACE IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE COMMENTS CHANGE THE FUCKIN CHANNEL
[22:01] HP The Ratt Mann: YOU NOEW YOUR FTP SERVER TAHTS ILEAGAL I SHOULD REPORT YOU TO WARNER BROS. ....I hope you have a bunch of money1111
[22:01] HP The Ratt Mann: GOOD THING YOU POSTED IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM
[22:02] HP The Ratt Mann: Whats wrong bro..at a loss for words??
[22:08] HP The Ratt Mann: need any more documentation???
[22:09] HP WonderGamer: Not at a loss for words. Just not responding. Unless this feud dies by the end of the night, this whole chat log will be reported to Jack & Xfire. I don't like taking extreme messures, but I'm not being given much choice here. [22:09] HP The Ratt Mann: go narc on someone else
[22:10] HP The Ratt Mann: don't ever threaten me with reporting me to "National law "again
[22:11] HP The Ratt Mann: u mighyt want to edit your reprt to Jack
[22:11] HP The Ratt Mann: I guess we will see if I have my admin. staus as of tomorrow?
[22:11] HP WonderGamer: Won't be edited at all. Everything starting from
[21:29] HP The Ratt Mann: polygimists?
is in there.
[22:13] HP The Ratt Mann: i GUESS EVER ADIN THAT EVER UTTERED THE WORD nIGGER IN ADULTS SHOULD BE REMOVED AS WELL EHH?
[22:13] HP The Ratt Mann: OR YOUR OPENLY SEXUAL COMMENTS THAT OFFENDED ME SHOULD RESULT IN YOUR BANNING AS WELL EHH?
[22:14] HP WonderGamer: It won't be reported till tomorrow. This is to make sure that everything is in the report. If you are able to calm down & let bygones be bygones, then I won't send the report. I'm trying to defuse the situation, but apparently you can't be defused.
[22:14] HP The Ratt Mann: If someone made the same comments about catholic girls you wouldn't have batted an eyelash
[22:16] HP The Ratt Mann: adults only anything go's wonder ...you know that
[22:16] HP The Ratt Mann: the talk is fast and loose
[22:16] HP The Ratt Mann: if you don't like it change the channel
[22:17] HP The Ratt Mann: you started the issue threatening to REPORT TO NATIONAL LAW!!!!!
[22:17] HP The Ratt Mann: DO IT
[22:18] HP WonderGamer: That's what Pierce said. As I explained to him, I don't like any type of Racist/Religous slams made to anybody, about any religion/race. It's true that these particular comments hit me harder than others because I am Mormon, but I really don't any type of Religious slams. Seriously, if you made a commet towards catholycs, I made not have said anything, but it still would've bothered me.
[22:19] HP The Ratt Mann: adult channel wonder get over it!!!
[22:19] HP The Ratt Mann: change the channel if you don't like it
[22:19] HP The Ratt Mann: just like cable
[22:20] HP The Ratt Mann: I hear many things in adult channel I don't particularly like either ...but I know that going in
[22:20] HP The Ratt Mann: I'm an adult
[22:22] HP The Ratt Mann: I have choices
[22:22] HP WonderGamer: The question is, are you willing to get over it. I've appoligized for my comments over Xfire & only Pierce has seen it from my side so far. You have not gotten yet that I am still trying to let things go, but you apparently are not willing to do that. Seriously, if you want to let things go, let me know. Otherwise, quit texting me & digging yourself a deeper grave. I really don't want to have to make any report of any kind, but I need to know that you are willing to let it go as I already have. I'm not even worried about the comments against Mormons anymore. I'm more worried about the fact that you are going to have hard feelings on this issue till the day you die.
[22:26] HP The Ratt Mann: I take it personally when anyone chooses to threaten to involve national law on what may have been saisd in an adults only no holds bvarred channel...as everyone else should... what's next...are you going to report someone because they spoke about smokin pot...against George Bush.... c'mon this is facisim at it's best
[22:27] HP WonderGamer:
[22:27] HP The Ratt Mann: you need to get a grip bro
[22:28] HP The Ratt Mann: go ahead report me to the Nazi's
[22:28] HP WonderGamer: You know as well as me that I don't agree with most of what Bush Jr. has done. As well as reporting smoking pot, that is something somebody does with their own life, not something I'm concerned about.
[22:28] HP The Ratt Mann: as usual u miss the point
[22:29] HP WonderGamer: The point is that even though that nerve was hit, I don't care about it anymore. My main concern is defusing this situation so I don't have to report it. I would rather be your friend than your enemy. That goes for anybody.
[22:29] HP The Ratt Mann: you are willing to report anyone to "National law" that doen't perscribe to your brand
[22:31] HP The Ratt Mann: sorry man you crossed a line that I can't live with... if that means you report me then so be it.. but I would think about how that will affect how you are trusted by everyone else
[22:32] HP The Ratt Mann: do what u gotta do dude
[22:33] HP The Ratt Mann: you wanna report me ..that sword cuts both ways
[22:33] HP The Ratt Mann: I hope u are gettin all of this
[22:33] HP The Ratt Mann: don't wanna miss a thing in your report
[22:34] HP The Ratt Mann: as mine will be just as detailed to all of those you call friends
[22:35] HP WonderGamer: Alright. Look at it this way. You hit a nerve when you refered to every Mormon alive. I hit a nerve when I mentioned National Law. The difference is I'm letting it go. What's it gotta take? You gotta hit a nerve on me again? I'm not easy to hit a nerve with, so we could be going at this all night; or at least the next hour & a half I'm online. Seriously, am I really more man at 28 than you are at whatever your age as to let go of something so quickly that you are gonna hold a grudge for the rest of your life???
[22:35] HP The Ratt Mann: p;ainly if you don't care for the comments made in over 18...stay out!!
[22:36] HP The Ratt Mann: end of discussion for me
[22:36] <This user is now offline>

HP TS Unbanning review with Evil_Kinevil after an abusing SA privs that should have been pulled from him when he game up his position as Admin. His SA was pulled the next day:

[21:44] HP WonderGamer: So what's the deal? Care to explain the reason I was banned. Jen is saying it's for talking shit about HP. We never talked shit about HP. I wouldn't do it because I'm devoted to HP as a gaming community.
[21:44] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: no your not, you were blatantly slating hp members tonight in the channel with her
[21:44] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: you were also gossiping about sbr
[21:44] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: you were overheard by 3 admins so dont even try to deny it
[21:45] HP WonderGamer: I dont deny the SBR accusations. Why would I slam HP members right in front of Peter. I'm not that stupid.
[21:46] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: if your devoted to hp as a gaming community then why were you openly bitching about the admins,and now making threats to take hp to the intetnet crimes division
[21:46] HP WonderGamer: If I did, then remind me what I said, cause I don't remember it.
[21:47] HP WonderGamer: I always bitch about Emily because of her attitude towards me. We're in the same community with hate between us. Doesn't make much of a "family."
[21:47] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: oh come on, you do nothing but gossip and talk shit about people
[21:48] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: and make personal threats towards people and threats towards gaming comunities to report them to the fbi
[21:49] HP WonderGamer: You're gonna have to give me an example, because the only gossip I've done are towards SBR & Emily. Those I will admit. I don't treat people like shit unless they're giving me a reason to.
[21:50] HP WonderGamer: Actually, I'm serious about that, unless Jack says it's time to go. I made a promise to Jack that if it came time for me to leave, all he had to do was tell me & I would remove myself. Banning me is not the right methods, because it promotes retaliation.
[21:51] HP WonderGamer: I can't remember one thing that me & Jen said that was talking trash about another HP member, so if you can get the words we said, then maybe I can remember & appologize for those words made.
[21:51] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: stop making stupid fucking idol threats against anyone that says boo to you
[21:51] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: including me, sbr and hp
[21:52] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: you start shit then when you dont get your own way you run crying to jack, and write reports to any bureau you think will listen
[21:53] HP WonderGamer: Hmmm... When you gave up your Admin position, you became very cold to me. I assumed that this meant you didn't care for use to be friends anymore & it got worse after the SBR incident, which made me think that you were backing SBR 100%. If these assumptions are wrong then I'm sorry, but this is how I was seeing it.
[21:54] HP WonderGamer: This is why I removed you from my Xfire as soon as you donned the SBR tags.
[21:54] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: there you go again, stop dropping sbr into this crap
[21:55] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: you seriously need to get your head out our ass and start acting like the big man you think you are
[21:55] HP WonderGamer: Alright. SBR out of this conversation.
[21:55] HP WonderGamer: I'll keep this promise.
[21:55] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: stop all the fucking stupid nonsense and idol threats. your not doing anyone any good expecially yourself
[21:57] HP WonderGamer: Care to name mambers I've make threats to? I can think of you & ratty, with Emily being a borderline threat.
[21:58] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: me sbr hp
[21:59] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: stop making these fucking idol threats to report every single little thing to the fucking fbi
[21:59] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: its soo childish
[22:00] HP WonderGamer: SBR yes. HP in general... Yeah. I'll have to admit, I made the comment today that I would make an IC report towards a number of the admins of HP. This I agree with. HP in general, no.
[22:00] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: and what will writing some dumbass report achieve?that nobody in their right mind would read?
[22:01] HP WonderGamer: Most likely nothing. I've wrote several & the only one that has been acted on was when the g00ns were hacking our TS server.
[22:01] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: so why are you still making threats towards people and gaming communities then>
[22:01] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: ?
[22:02] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: you gotta stop this petty bullshit NOW. its completely pointless
[22:03] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: you were caught gossiping and spreading rumours, which are fucking nasty, then when your comments get you banned cos you were soo out of line, you cry and go report it to the fbi or shit
[22:04] HP WonderGamer: [sigh] Let me level with you: The reports don't really mean so much getting something done about it. It's more getting a little closure when nothing can be done about the issue that gave me a reason to do it. If nothing can be rectified about the issue, such as SBR banning (I know, I said I wouldn't bring it up; it's just on example), then I made the report to give me a little peace of mind over it, even though I know that most likely nothing will be done about it.
[22:04] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: you were banned from sbr for a fucking reason
[22:05] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: dont be such a big cry baby and bringing it up at hp when it doesnt concern anyone there
[22:05] HP WonderGamer: You don't need to explain that to me. I already know & I don't really care about it anymore.
[22:05] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: well stop fucking bringing it up and making idol threats on that basic
[22:05] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: it sad, pathetic and moronic
[22:05] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: grow the fuck up
[22:07] HP WonderGamer: Back to the issue at hand, what about TS. Is there a chance of unbanning or do I just need to hand in my tags & usernames for deletion. I can guarantee that if I can't chat with my friends on TS when playing CoD in HP, then I have no reason to continue playing it, hence, no reason to continue being in HP.
[22:08] [_SBR_> L'il Leprechaun: no the ban stays
[22:09] HP WonderGamer: So be it. The issue will be escalated to Jack then. After which, I will mostly likely be leaving HP. As to whether an IC report will be made, that has not been decided yet. Have a nice life.

I will admit that there are good Admins in HP however. I am still good friends with one in particular. Possibly more, but I am unaware of it if this is the case. Good Admins names that I can remember when I was there included Enchantress, Krysis, Bodybag, Fearless_Jack, Silverlock & in most cases Pierce. Admins to look out for would include See_Emily_Play, Fullmag & Ratman. Evil_Kinevil, Flaming_Moe & Peter were cool up until a point, where they turned into complete assholes after the TS ban. The Foy Admins seem to all be cool even after I left HP, which I did after getting banned from TS & the forums.

UPDATE: It appears that after posting this, that I found out that Flaming_Moe was not all that I thought he was cracked up to be. Further information can be found here.